Hob isn't entirely sure he follows the last bit. Magic about what things are? What does she mean? But whatever magic it is, it created all of this and trapped them here, so it must be powerful.

"The stuff you usually do? Maybe you're behind it all." His voice says he's joking, but part of him has to wonder. He doesn't really know this woman, and her ancestor was not above disreputable tactics to get what she wanted.